Friday, January 29, 2010
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
The part in the chapter that really grabbed my attention was when Cross sat and burned the memories he hd of martha and tried to make himself realize that he couldnt hlod onto these things as he did. Then he realized it was all in his head and he couldnt stop thinking about her even by burning the stuff and trying to forget. To me this was so sad to just feel like you have nothing and that its a fight for your life everyday. I have great respect for the people who fight for our country.
The chapter in this book that I found the most engaging was “Sweetheart of the Song Tra Bong”. This chapter gave me a good idea of how lonely the guys fighting in the war could get. Even though they had each other they still missed their loved ones back home. Mark Fossie showed his love for Marry Anne as well as Marry Anne did for Mark Fossie. Mark had to have went through troubles getting her all the way to Vietnam, and Marry Anne knew she was going into a warzone but ignored the dangers to see Mark. I also thought the chapter gave a good example of how much people changed from being in Vietnam. When Mary Anne first got there it was to see her boyfriend, she was eager to get married and have children with him. After being in Vietnam for a while Mary Anne was in no hurry to get married, and I think towards the end she was somewhat losing her mind. This book makes me feel like there are many different ways people can deal with the loss of a loved one. Some people show their emotions and deal with the loss as best as they can and others may handle it just by not trying to handle it at all and become numb to the situation. I think that people struggle so much over losing friends or family because they have built special bonds with these people throughout their lives. Then when one day they are not there anymore could be very tough to cope with. From my experience, the best way to deal with the loss of someone of meaning in your life is to come to terms with what has happened and be thankful for the people that you still have in your life.
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Jimmy Cross is in charge of his troops so he takes a lot of responsibility for things. In my case I'm the oldest child in my family. I take a lot of responsibility of how my siblings act and what the do. They see as i do and I'm the one that sets the influence. If they do something bad i almost feel like it was my fault that i was the one who did it. I have an opinion about war. I don't support any type of war or fighting or violence but i do support the men and women who risk their lives to fight for us. I feel that there are other ways of dealing with issues than killing each other.
Monday, January 25, 2010
this book takes us through how hard it is for one to get over the horror of lossing someone you love infront of you. and seeing the way they died. and living that memory and playing it like a dvd in your head over and over again the rest of your live and it is really a struggle.
I have two different types of feelings towards the war. My first thought about war is we obviously need war to make a stand and a point to other countries that want to start stuff with us. We help protect our country so our country can stay together and not get walked on by other countries because it shows a sign of weakness. My second thought about war is that it is sad to go fight over in a foreign country and possibly never returning to your loved ones. If there was another way for our country to fight a war without having Americans do it and losing their life's I would chose that.
So far, this book has opened my eyes to war. I'm not sure if things like the buffalo torture or Mary Anne coming to Vietnam are plausible today (or even true) but seeing how the men responded to what was going on around them was interesting. Even in such a mentally disturbing atmosphere there was a sense of normalcy. " Though it's odd, you're never more alive than when your almost dead", is a quote from my favorite chapter. The soldiers realized that at any moment they could be gone like Curt or Ted Lavender. I thought that it was sad that as much as they could repeat a story and try to make people understand, the reality was that no two soldiers experience of war was alike.
The Things They Carried really demonstrates the impact of tragic loss throughout the book. The men deal with tragic loss on a common basis. Losing one another really impacts them because they become so close as comrades and they never know who is going to be lost next. I can't even imagine how terrifying that is. People struggle so much to get over the loss of close friends and family because well, words can't even explain the pain. I've mentioned this before, but death is so permanent and I think that is tough for all of us to face. The reality of the situation is really hard to deal with. We become so close and attached to the loved ones around us. I don't think you can really ever get over the loss of someone. I think time helps, but the pain never truly goes away. The best way to deal with a death in my opinion, is to surround yourself with other loved ones and try to focus on the good memories you had with that person.
This book has a great amount of tragic loss, and some of the stories really upset me. I can not imagine fighting along side a friend one day and then having to transport their body to a chopper the next. The shock that they were fine one second and then in a blink of an eye they were gone forever would overwhelm me. People struggle when they lose a friend or family member because they can not get over the reality that they are really gone and never returning. When my grandpa lost my grandma he was in shock because it was so sudden and we had no warning. He was so upset he didn't know what to do with himself. While talking to me about it he said that he knew one day they would part but that he never imagined how hard it would be to live without her. I believe the best way to grieve over a loved one is to remember them even if it hurts, remember the the great times you shared with them. Keep them with you in spirit.
This book gives me a different perspective into the issue of war. You see how it really affects each individual. People who have not served may think that those in the service just come home, and resume normal life, as if nothing had happened. It is so much more than that. If changes you for the rest of your life. I think this pertains to those in the past, and the present. It really showed me how it affects each individual.
This book makes me feel that the war change for the batter because changes in the war. Back than in war you didn't have a choice whether you want to stay or go to war. Also, most of the people that were drafted in the wars were middle class people and some people that not even father their education to college. But, now people have their own choices to go war or not.
The book makes me hate war, both in the present and past. There are so many examples in the book about how men that do not even like the issue they are fighting for are having to die for that issue. Also i think war makes some people very depressed, like the man who hanged himself in the book after the war because he felt like he had nothing to do.
if i were him i would go war?
when i read this book it makes me to be very strong if ihad bad sitution such as like going to war or to be very brave,
peope strugle many ways to love their clos friend or their close fimaly . the one way a person can lose a close person its war , or car acciendent. i wouldnt ecourge my close friend or brothers, or sister go wars because i dont like to los them. there were certain reposible of this book because in order for them to be caring to each other they need to look everyone responsible because they alla t war and they have different responsible. my responsible it wouldnt affect anybody as long iam doing right things ,and taking my responsiblities.
the issu of war is not something right because someone gonna loss their life in the war. in the past and in the pressent war is gonna help anything somone is gonn die.
"After ten minutes they covered most of Kiowa's lower body. The corpse was angled steeply into the muck, upside down, like a driver who had plunged headfirst off a high tower..." Mitchell Sanders finally nodded and said, "Let's get it done," and they took hold of the legs and pulled up hard.."
Although people say feelings come and go it never does when it comes to the loss of a loved one. I very hard for people to get over the of someone whether they are blood related or not. These people share a special bond that no one understands so it's very hard for some to related to others when it comes to a tragic loss. I think this the reason why Lieutenant Jimmy Cross had a hard time copping with the loss of Kiowa. At the end he seemed to debate about whether he would write a letter to Kiowa's father. I wondered why in certain moments Cross would close his eyes. It seemed to me that he was trying to block out the fact that Kiowa is dead.
The book " The Things They Carried" gives me a negative connotation on war because they don't really describe any positive aspects of war.
This book has made me realize that I really have no idea what war is like, and that the American people and it's government do not have the right to make decisions about war while sitting being a big wooden desk in Washington. We will only truly understand war, and how it works when we are directly involved in it.
This book makes me feel that the lives lost a lot of times are without purpose. Many of the men and women who fight in wars do not necessarily believe in the war, which makes the war that much harder to endure. personally I feel that war is many times unnecessary and never really solves the root cause of the problems. Vietnam for example was in many aspects a huge waste of time, money and probably most importantly a waste of human life. In the end, no change occur ed in the two countries, and even today south Korea poses as a threat to many countries. Many people feel the same way today with the war on terrorism. Personally I feel that the tragic events of 911 needed to be dealt with, but this war has been drug out for way to long. All of the lives that were lost in the book were a result of a fight between other peoples desires for power.
On the other hand, war is necessary to protect innocent people. With out those that are willing to protect others, events like 911 would occur more frequently. This struggle between Life and Liberty is what makes the issue of war so complex, and will continue until the end of time.
This book really hits on the wrongs and rights of war. Tim O'brien says that is a bad war to be fighting in and I believe that it really was. What did the United States army actually acomplish in Vietnam? It makes you think twice about whether the decision to go to war is right. The war being fought over seas now is wrong too. What were the terrorists main objective on 9/11? They wanted to make the United States mad. They wanted the military to take action and start a fight. Where has the war got us to now? In my personal opinion, I do not think we have acheived anything. Families have just lost their children for no reason. We have spent loads of money and gotten the country into unfalable debt. The thing that is really hurting us though is that we did react on such a large scale. How can we finish what we have started when there is not an end in sight?
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
Why do the soliders take death so lightly?
Why does Jimmy Cross blame himself for Ted's death?
Based on the little stories the soldiers told, what kind of morality do you think they have?
-Kelsey and Reid
Even though the letters that lieutant jimmy recieved werent love letters why did they mean so much to him?
Why does Jimmy Cross analyze Martha's pictures so much, instead of simply looking at them?
Why do they consider marching to be "humping"? What are the reasons behind this?
Brice Sheldon and Kyle
If you didn't get drafted by going to college, then why if Jimmy's love for Martha was so strongdid he not go to college? Seth and Njama
Even though Lt. Jimmy Cross is'nt actually responsible for Ted Lavendars death, why does he feel like he is?
Saturday, January 16, 2010
The main feelings expressed in this poem are the feelings of terror and unrest created by the tornado. The feeling of relief and security returns once the storm has subsided. This is expressed when the author talks about how everything is starting to steam and the calm coming back. I think my favorite part of this poem is the part about the fat grey carp. This part of the poem really made me think to understand what the author meant.
Thursday, January 14, 2010
Wednesday, January 13, 2010
The basic story is this person driving and hit a woodchuck, as they hit the helpless animal he looked back and stopped. The person stopped to see how badly the animal was hurt, and saw the woodchucks new born babies. The new borns have no way of surviving now that the mother is dead and the only one's to take care of them. I feel bad for the mother because she died and now can't take care of her young, and the babies will all die from no food and shelter.
My favorite line of the poem is when it says, " to take the animal back, to take it back lightly, into the woods to start over." I liked it because it would take away the animal to happiness again and start a new life and new children.
The feeling of sorrow really sticks out to me in this poem. Clearly, this woman is mourning. When reading it at first, we don't quite understand where or why. After thinking, we come to a conclusion that she is at the Vietnam Wall at Washington, D.C. It is written in a way as to describe that she is treating the wall as her lost loved one. It says, "she places her arm behind the neck of the name or around the name's shoulder, she kisses the name on its forehead, the way mothers do." In the second paragraph, it is describing her desire to have God bring him back to life, place him in his bed, as if nothing has happened. She wants everything to be back to normal. She misses her son. I believe it is her son whom passed away, because in the first paragraph, it says that "she kisses the name on its forehead, the way mothers do."
I thought the emotions and feelings that come through in this poem are the feelings that you get when you have to stand still outside in the cold. The boy might be mad for having to wait so long, or the fact that the bus that will be picking him up will be taking him to school, a place that a lot of kids do not enjoy going to.
I thought that the descriptive language is written well. Some examples are: frozen dawn, hangover moon, tar that never ends, and his breath carves little statues out of cold. My favorite line is "Frozen dawn. A scattering of snow spits a boy a raw welcome..." I really like this because I had to walk to school in the harsh Ohio weather until my senior year. The wind and tempurature gives you quite the wake up call at 7:30 in the morning.
I connect this poem to the paragraph I wrote above. It was always tough to walk out my door every morning, knowing what I was going to endure on my mile long walk to school. I would also see parents and kids that I knew that would honk and wave as they drove by, and in the best cases, would stop to pick me up.
In my view this poem is about a mother who is looking back to when her children were young. She is reflecting on their growth and coming to terms with how they have gone on to live their own lives. She realizes that they no longer need her to wash their playclothes, but wants to keep memories of their childhood close. She can't believe how fast they grew up.
After reading the poem for the first time, i took the title into consideration. The only reason for the title of the poem that i could think of was a woman being at the Vietnam Wall in Washington DC. I have always seen video clips of people kissing the names of relatives or friends who died for their country in the Vietnam conflict. Most of those images included people on ther knees in tears, thinking of their loved ones who lost their lives.
I then began to put all of the pieces of the poem together, within the aspect of the Vietnam wall theory. I can imagine a mother kneeling at the wall, remembering their child. They remember them so well that they can feel them kneeling next to them.
That person that they loved so dearly, has now been demoted to a simple name on a stone wall, but to that mother, the name is more then just a simple engraving. That name symbolizes the person that had such a huge impact on their life, and still does to this day.
My favorite lines from the poem is, "she will find the name, sleeping again in its bed". This line symbolizes her prayers and hopes that some day god will bring that person back into their life, as if nothing bad ever happened ot them.
What struck you about this poem? What is the basic story, in your view?
What feelings or emoitions come through in the poem? Explain.
Where is the language especially well done? What's your favorite line from the poem? Why?
How might you connect to the poem? What does it mean to you?
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